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Did you get ripped off by a company selling Ab Energizers?  John Beck Seminars?  Please take the time to read this information - it is important and may help you by providing information to recover your lost money.

First, please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Tracy Smith and you have found a small business that my wife and I operate:  www.FamilyProductsOnline.com.  We have no connection to the company that is selling the ab-energizer, John Beck Free & Clear Real Estate package, and other items via infomercials.  Apparently you have been caught by a large TV-informercial scam and I am the unsuspecting victim of a literally HUNDREDS of emails and phone calls requesting status on related orders.  Understand that you are not alone.

Important Note: www.FamilyProductsOnline.com has NO ASSOCIATION with "www.FamilyProductsLLC.com" which is the customer service address given by the scammers on a recording at one of their 800 numbers. I do operate the website called www.FamilyProductsOnline.com. At FamilyProductsOnline.com we sell custom printed wedding invitations, rubber stamps, business cards, pens & pencils, and other custom printed or personalized products.

Fortunately we don't sell ab-energizers or marketing seminars here. (Please visit our site for verification that we are unrelated!) Please stop by our site and bookmark for future reference.  Give us the chance to show you what GREAT customer service is! (Plus, this information is not "free" to provide.  We are paying a hefty bill to host the site for so many visitors.  Help us offset the cost by placing a small order).

Many folks have landed at our website due to a search engine feature built into Netscape and Internet Explorer Browsers. The 800 number for the ab-energizer people lists a website address as "customerservice@familyproductsllc.com". This is not a real web address; in fact, it is an email address. When you type that in your browser, the internet returns an error to your PC. A new feature of most browsers is to do an automatic search on what you have typed instead of displaying the error. The search finds "Family Products Online" as the closest match since words in your browser were "Family Products LLC". Please understand that we have NO ASSOCIATION with the scammers!

I am compiling this list here and update it occasionally. I have also listed my working phone number below to let you know I am not a scam-artist. I am a small-business owner who is just as angry at scammers as you are. They are costing me a fortune in 1-800 calls and the recent overload of emails.

Over the the last several weeks, I have put together these facts:

-The Scammers might be related to Genesis Media Group, a subsidiary of GenesisIntermedia Inc. GenesisIntermedia is in financial trouble. See the section below about GenesisIntermedia.

-The Scammers have a website of www.familyproductsllc.com which is only an email front, there is no "real" website there. You can email customerservice@familyproductsllc.com which is their published email address. Most persons have not gotten a response.

-The Scammers may use the following websites: www.ab-energizer-exercise.com, www.ab-fitness-exercise.com, www.familyproductsllc.com. More information about the owners of these websites follows in this email (Including address and phone numbers).

-The Scammers may use the following phone numbers: 1-800-457-0825, 1-800-801-6130, 1-888-602-7878, 1-818-902-4100 fax: 123 123 1234, 1-888-255-2525.

As an honest, hard working small-business owner, I am interested in helping you with anyone who tarnishes the image of small businesses. My suggestions are to file complaints with the Local Better Business Bureau, and also with the Post Office. If you used the US Postal Service for any part of this transaction (such as to send them a payment by check or money order), this would fall under federal mail scam complaints as well.

Kind Regards,

-Tracy & Jennifer Smith
Smith Family Enterprises
www.FamilyProductsOnline.com
www.FPOHosting.com

 

MORE DETAILED INFORMATION FOLLOWS:

INFORMATION ON GENESIS INTERMEDIA, INC.

The Infomercials may be broadcast by Genesis Media Group, a subsidiary of Genesis Intermedia, Inc. which is listed on NASDAQ as GENI. The parent company Genesis Intermedia stock was DE-LISTED on January 29, 2002. If you don't know what this means, my summary to you is that this company is belly-up. Bankrupt. Defunct. Whatever you want to call it, the stock price often indicates the "health" of the company. Right now the stock price is ZERO (it has been de-listed). Even before it was delisted, the stock was last trading at $0.001. That's not even ONE PENNY per share!

You can verify everything said in the above paragraph by visiting http://www.wsrn.com/apps/links/?s=GENI. WSRN.com is "Wall Street Research Net"

Further, Genesis Intermedia was in trouble with wall street long before January. In Sept 2001, they were halted in trading pending requests for information by NASDAQ. See this information here: http://www.nasdaqnews.com/news/pr2001/ne_section01_274.html

There is a class-action lawsuit against Genesis Intermedia. Information on that can be found here: http://www.secfraud.com/filedcases/geni.html

"The company appears to be under SEC scrutiny for its questionable involvement with Adnan Khashoggi. Khashoggi was a financial middleman in the Iran-Contra scandal and numerous other endeavors." Read more of this article here: http://www.premierinvestor.com/stocksplits/announcements/091901_1.asp

More information about Genesis Intermedia's decline can be found at these websites (and many others... just do a search on "Genesis Media GENI" and you will find a load of news articles).
http://www.marketguide.com/mgi/snap/A1F32.html
http://tools.thestreet.com/tsc/quotes.html?pg=qcn&symb=GENI
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/l/G/GENI.html
http://www.internetstockreport.com/tracker/
article/0%2C1785%2C1711_522451%2C00.html

WEBSITES AND REGISTRAR INFORMATION:
The following websites have been looked up in the publicly available "whois" database at www.netsol.com:

www.abenergizer.com:

Registrant:
Abflex USA, Inc. (ABENERGIZER3-DOM)
   7975 Raytheon Rd, Ste 350
   San Diego, CA 92111
   US

   Domain Name: ABENERGIZER.COM

   Administrative Contact:
      Electronic Products Distribution  (EPSBMBKOYO)  cesarchan@bizeeboys.com
      Electronic Products Distribution
      7975 Raytheon Road suite 380
      San Diego, CA 92111
      US
      858-496-1100 fax: 123 123 1234
   Technical Contact:
      VeriSign, Inc.  (HOST-ORG)  namehost@WORLDNIC.NET
      VeriSign, Inc.
      21355 Ridgetop Circle
      Dulles, VA 20166
      US
      1-888-642-9675 fax:
   Billing Contact:
      Abflex USA, Inc.  (W25345-OR)  hbryan@bizeeboys.com
      Abflex USA, Inc.
      7975 Raytheon Rd, Ste 350
      San Diego, CA 92111
      US
      858 715-8400 fax: 858 573-5100

   Record last updated on 12-Dec-2001.
   Record expires on 13-Aug-2002.
   Record created on 13-Aug-2001.
   Database last updated on 19-Mar-2002 11:12:00 EST.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   AUTH40.NS.UU.NET 198.6.1.18
   AUTH62.NS.UU.NET 198.6.1.19
 

www.ab-energizer.com:

Registrant:
Abflex USA, Inc. (ABENERGIZER6-DOM)
   7975 Raytheon Rd, Ste 350
   San Diego, CA 92111
   US

   Domain Name: AB-ENERGIZER.COM

   Administrative Contact:
      Electronic Products Distribution  (EPSBMBKOYO)  cesarchan@bizeeboys.com
      Electronic Products Distribution
      7975 Raytheon Road suite 380
      San Diego, CA 92111
      US
      858-496-1100 fax: 123 123 1234
   Technical Contact:
      VeriSign, Inc.  (HOST-ORG)  namehost@WORLDNIC.NET
      VeriSign, Inc.
      21355 Ridgetop Circle
      Dulles, VA 20166
      US
      1-888-642-9675 fax:
   Billing Contact:
      Abflex USA, Inc.  (W25345-OR)  hbryan@bizeeboys.com
      Abflex USA, Inc.
      7975 Raytheon Rd, Ste 350
      San Diego, CA 92111
      US
      858 715-8400 fax: 858 573-5100

   Record last updated on 12-Dec-2001.
   Record expires on 16-Aug-2002.
   Record created on 16-Aug-2001.
   Database last updated on 19-Mar-2002 11:12:00 EST.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   AUTH111.NS.UU.NET 198.6.1.115
   AUTH120.NS.UU.NET 198.6.1.154



www.ab-energizer-exercise.com:

Registrant:
AB Center
1550 E. Sharon Way
Scottsdale, AZ 85260
US

Domain Name: AB-ENERGIZER-EXERCISE.COM

Administrative Contact:
 Admin, System info@ab-energizer-fitness.com
 1550 E. Sharon Way
 Scottsdale, AZ 85260
 US
 888-255-2525
 
 Technical Contact:
 Admin, System info@ab-energizer-fitness.com
 1550 E. Sharon Way
 Scottsdale, AZ 85260
 US
 888-255-2525
 
 Billing Contact:
 Admin, System info@ab-energizer-fitness.com
 1550 E. Sharon Way
 Scottsdale, AZ 85260
 US
 888-255-2525
 
 Registration Service Provider:
 BudgetRegister.com, support@budgetregister.com
 +1.5306888303
 http://www.budgetregister.com
 
 
 Record last updated on 06-Feb-2002.
 Record expires on 29-Oct-2002.
 Record Created on 29-Oct-2001.
 
 Domain servers in listed order:
 NS1.IMEDIASOLUTIONS.NET 64.6.64.109
 NS2.IMEDIASOLUTIONS.NET 65.160.167.143
 
 
 
 www.ab-fitness-exercise.com:
 
 Registrant:
 System Admin
 Websystems Marketing
 350 S Center St #500
 350 S Center St #500
 Reno, Nevada 89501
 United States
 
 Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
 Domain Name: AB-FITNESS-EXERCISE.COM
 Created on: 14-Dec-01
 Expires on: 14-Dec-02
 Last Updated on: 14-Dec-01
 Administrative Contact: Admin, System exercise@ab-fitness-exercise.com
 Websystems Marketing
 350 S Center St #500
 350 S Center St #500
 Reno, Nevada 89501
 United States
 1-888-602-7878
 Technical Contact:
 Admin, System exercise@ab-fitness-exercise.com
 Dieting Center
 350 S Center St
 Reno, Nevada 89501
 United States
 1-888-602-7878
 Domain servers in listed order:
 NS1.IMEDIASOLUTIONS.NET
 NS2.IMEDIASOLUTIONS.NET
 
 
 www.familyproductsllc.com:
 
 Registrant:
 HCG, Inc. (FAMILYPRODUCTSLLC-DOM)
 5805 Sepulveda Blvd.
 Van Nuys, CA 91411
 US
 
 Domain Name: FAMILYPRODUCTSLLC.COM
 
 Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
 HCG, Inc. (P27283-OR) ghewitt@genesisintermedia.com
 HCG, Inc.
 5805 Sepulveda Blvd.
 Van Nuys, CA 91411
 US
 818-902-4100 fax: 123 123 1234
 Technical Contact:
 DNS Administration (QC271-ORG) dns-nsi@QWESTIP.NET
 Qwest Communications International Inc.
 4250 FAIRFAX DRIVE, 12W060
 ARLINGTON, VA 22203-1607
 USA
 703-363-0220
 
 Record last updated on 24-Jan-2002.
 Record expires on 12-Dec-2002.
 Record created on 12-Dec-2001.
 Database last updated on 5-Feb-2002 19:58:00 EST.
 
 Domain servers in listed order:
 
 DCA-ANS-01.INET.QWEST.NET 205.171.9.242
 SVL-ANS-01.INET.QWEST.NET 205.171.14.195
 
 [end of information] [originally posted here in January, 2002]

 
 
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