Ab-Energizer and other Info-mercial products SCAM information
Did you get ripped off by a company selling Ab Energizers? John
Beck Seminars? Please take the time to read this information - it
is important and may help you by providing information to recover
your lost money.
First, please allow me to introduce myself. My name is
Tracy Smith and you have found a small business that my wife and I
operate:
www.FamilyProductsOnline.com. We have no connection to the
company that is selling the ab-energizer, John Beck Free & Clear Real
Estate package, and other items via infomercials. Apparently you have
been caught by a large TV-informercial scam and I am the unsuspecting
victim of a literally HUNDREDS of emails and phone calls requesting
status on related orders. Understand that you are not alone.
Important Note:
www.FamilyProductsOnline.com has NO ASSOCIATION with "www.FamilyProductsLLC.com"
which is the customer service address given by the scammers on a recording
at one of their 800 numbers. I do operate the website called
www.FamilyProductsOnline.com.
At FamilyProductsOnline.com
we sell custom printed wedding invitations, rubber stamps, business cards,
pens & pencils, and other custom printed or personalized products.
Fortunately we don't sell ab-energizers or marketing seminars here.
(Please visit our site for verification that we are unrelated!) Please
stop by our site and bookmark for future reference. Give us the chance to
show you what GREAT customer service is! (Plus, this information is not
"free" to provide. We are paying a hefty bill to host the site for so
many visitors. Help us offset the cost by placing a small order).
Many folks have landed at our website due to a search engine feature built
into Netscape and Internet Explorer Browsers. The 800 number for the ab-energizer
people lists a website address as "customerservice@familyproductsllc.com".
This is not a real web address; in fact, it is an email address. When you
type that in your browser, the internet returns an error to your PC. A new
feature of most browsers is to do an automatic search on what you have
typed instead of displaying the error. The search finds "Family Products
Online" as the closest match since words in your browser were "Family
Products LLC". Please understand that we have NO ASSOCIATION with the
scammers!
I am compiling this list here and update it occasionally. I have also
listed my working phone number below to let you know I am not a
scam-artist. I am a small-business owner who is just as angry at scammers
as you are. They are costing me a fortune in 1-800 calls and the recent
overload of emails.
Over the the last several weeks, I have put together these facts:
-The Scammers might be related to Genesis Media Group, a subsidiary of
GenesisIntermedia Inc. GenesisIntermedia is in financial trouble. See the
section below about GenesisIntermedia.
-The Scammers have a website of www.familyproductsllc.com which is only an
email front, there is no "real" website there. You can email
customerservice@familyproductsllc.com which is their published email
address. Most persons have not gotten a response.
-The Scammers may use the following websites:
www.ab-energizer-exercise.com, www.ab-fitness-exercise.com,
www.familyproductsllc.com. More information about the owners of these
websites follows in this email (Including address and phone numbers).
-The Scammers may use the following phone numbers: 1-800-457-0825,
1-800-801-6130, 1-888-602-7878, 1-818-902-4100 fax: 123 123 1234,
1-888-255-2525.
As an honest, hard working small-business owner, I am interested in
helping you with anyone who tarnishes the image of small businesses. My
suggestions are to file complaints with the Local Better Business Bureau,
and also with the Post Office. If you used the US Postal Service for any
part of this transaction (such as to send them a payment by check or money
order), this would fall under federal mail scam complaints as well.
Kind Regards,
-Tracy & Jennifer Smith
Smith Family Enterprises
www.FamilyProductsOnline.com
www.FPOHosting.com
MORE DETAILED INFORMATION FOLLOWS:
INFORMATION ON GENESIS INTERMEDIA, INC.
The Infomercials may be broadcast by Genesis Media Group, a subsidiary of
Genesis Intermedia, Inc. which is listed on NASDAQ as GENI. The parent
company Genesis Intermedia stock was DE-LISTED on January 29, 2002. If you
don't know what this means, my summary to you is that this company is
belly-up. Bankrupt. Defunct. Whatever you want to call it, the stock price
often indicates the "health" of the company. Right now the stock price is
ZERO (it has been de-listed). Even before it was delisted, the stock was
last trading at $0.001. That's not even ONE PENNY per share!
You can verify everything said in the above paragraph by visiting
http://www.wsrn.com/apps/links/?s=GENI. WSRN.com is "Wall Street
Research Net"
Further, Genesis Intermedia was in trouble with wall street long before
January. In Sept 2001, they were halted in trading pending requests for
information by NASDAQ. See this information here:
http://www.nasdaqnews.com/news/pr2001/ne_section01_274.html
There is a class-action lawsuit against Genesis Intermedia. Information on
that can be found here:
http://www.secfraud.com/filedcases/geni.html
"The company appears to be under SEC scrutiny for its questionable
involvement with Adnan Khashoggi. Khashoggi was a financial middleman in
the Iran-Contra scandal and numerous other endeavors." Read more of this
article here:
http://www.premierinvestor.com/stocksplits/announcements/091901_1.asp
More information about Genesis Intermedia's decline can be found at these
websites (and many others... just do a search on "Genesis Media GENI" and
you will find a load of news articles).
http://www.marketguide.com/mgi/snap/A1F32.html
http://tools.thestreet.com/tsc/quotes.html?pg=qcn&symb=GENI
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/l/G/GENI.html
http://www.internetstockreport.com/tracker/
article/0%2C1785%2C1711_522451%2C00.html
WEBSITES AND REGISTRAR INFORMATION:
The following websites have been looked up in the publicly available "whois"
database at www.netsol.com:
www.abenergizer.com:
Registrant:
Abflex USA, Inc. (ABENERGIZER3-DOM)
7975 Raytheon Rd, Ste 350
San Diego, CA 92111
US
Domain Name: ABENERGIZER.COM
Administrative Contact:
Electronic Products Distribution (EPSBMBKOYO)
cesarchan@bizeeboys.com
Electronic Products Distribution
7975 Raytheon Road suite 380
San Diego, CA 92111
US
858-496-1100 fax: 123 123 1234
Technical Contact:
VeriSign, Inc. (HOST-ORG)
namehost@WORLDNIC.NET
VeriSign, Inc.
21355 Ridgetop Circle
Dulles, VA 20166
US
1-888-642-9675 fax:
Billing Contact:
Abflex USA, Inc. (W25345-OR)
hbryan@bizeeboys.com
Abflex USA, Inc.
7975 Raytheon Rd, Ste 350
San Diego, CA 92111
US
858 715-8400 fax: 858 573-5100
Record last updated on 12-Dec-2001.
Record expires on 13-Aug-2002.
Record created on 13-Aug-2001.
Database last updated on 19-Mar-2002 11:12:00 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
AUTH40.NS.UU.NET
198.6.1.18
AUTH62.NS.UU.NET
198.6.1.19
www.ab-energizer.com:
Registrant:
Abflex USA, Inc. (ABENERGIZER6-DOM)
7975 Raytheon Rd, Ste 350
San Diego, CA 92111
US
Domain Name: AB-ENERGIZER.COM
Administrative Contact:
Electronic Products Distribution (EPSBMBKOYO)
cesarchan@bizeeboys.com
Electronic Products Distribution
7975 Raytheon Road suite 380
San Diego, CA 92111
US
858-496-1100 fax: 123 123 1234
Technical Contact:
VeriSign, Inc. (HOST-ORG)
namehost@WORLDNIC.NET
VeriSign, Inc.
21355 Ridgetop Circle
Dulles, VA 20166
US
1-888-642-9675 fax:
Billing Contact:
Abflex USA, Inc. (W25345-OR)
hbryan@bizeeboys.com
Abflex USA, Inc.
7975 Raytheon Rd, Ste 350
San Diego, CA 92111
US
858 715-8400 fax: 858 573-5100
Record last updated on 12-Dec-2001.
Record expires on 16-Aug-2002.
Record created on 16-Aug-2001.
Database last updated on 19-Mar-2002 11:12:00 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
AUTH111.NS.UU.NET
198.6.1.115
AUTH120.NS.UU.NET
198.6.1.154
www.ab-energizer-exercise.com:
Registrant:
AB Center
1550 E. Sharon Way
Scottsdale, AZ 85260
US
Domain Name: AB-ENERGIZER-EXERCISE.COM
Administrative Contact:
Admin, System info@ab-energizer-fitness.com
1550 E. Sharon Way
Scottsdale, AZ 85260
US
888-255-2525
Technical Contact:
Admin, System info@ab-energizer-fitness.com
1550 E. Sharon Way
Scottsdale, AZ 85260
US
888-255-2525
Billing Contact:
Admin, System info@ab-energizer-fitness.com
1550 E. Sharon Way
Scottsdale, AZ 85260
US
888-255-2525
Registration Service Provider:
BudgetRegister.com, support@budgetregister.com
+1.5306888303
http://www.budgetregister.com
Record last updated on 06-Feb-2002.
Record expires on 29-Oct-2002.
Record Created on 29-Oct-2001.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.IMEDIASOLUTIONS.NET 64.6.64.109
NS2.IMEDIASOLUTIONS.NET 65.160.167.143
www.ab-fitness-exercise.com:
Registrant:
System Admin
Websystems Marketing
350 S Center St #500
350 S Center St #500
Reno, Nevada 89501
United States
Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: AB-FITNESS-EXERCISE.COM
Created on: 14-Dec-01
Expires on: 14-Dec-02
Last Updated on: 14-Dec-01
Administrative Contact: Admin, System exercise@ab-fitness-exercise.com
Websystems Marketing
350 S Center St #500
350 S Center St #500
Reno, Nevada 89501
United States
1-888-602-7878
Technical Contact:
Admin, System exercise@ab-fitness-exercise.com
Dieting Center
350 S Center St
Reno, Nevada 89501
United States
1-888-602-7878
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.IMEDIASOLUTIONS.NET
NS2.IMEDIASOLUTIONS.NET
www.familyproductsllc.com:
Registrant:
HCG, Inc. (FAMILYPRODUCTSLLC-DOM)
5805 Sepulveda Blvd.
Van Nuys, CA 91411
US
Domain Name: FAMILYPRODUCTSLLC.COM
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
HCG, Inc. (P27283-OR) ghewitt@genesisintermedia.com
HCG, Inc.
5805 Sepulveda Blvd.
Van Nuys, CA 91411
US
818-902-4100 fax: 123 123 1234
Technical Contact:
DNS Administration (QC271-ORG) dns-nsi@QWESTIP.NET
Qwest Communications International Inc.
4250 FAIRFAX DRIVE, 12W060
ARLINGTON, VA 22203-1607
USA
703-363-0220
Record last updated on 24-Jan-2002.
Record expires on 12-Dec-2002.
Record created on 12-Dec-2001.
Database last updated on 5-Feb-2002 19:58:00 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
DCA-ANS-01.INET.QWEST.NET 205.171.9.242
SVL-ANS-01.INET.QWEST.NET 205.171.14.195
[end of information] [originally posted here in January, 2002]